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someone    Said...

what is this, a wild west shootout? a grade school dare?

regardless of the rightness of wrongness of this, this "press release" is written like a juvenile bully, not a ceo.

21-Nov-07 04:32 PM

Samus    Said...

I'm a longtime customer with Waves.. love their plugins... I'm a supporter of legit software but still BanPiracy's efforts makes me grinch. How will this work for the Waves in the end?

22-Nov-07 01:53 AM

Aran    Said...

Looks like retired Mossad agents found a new civilian carreer.

The quest made by Waves is leaving me quite cold. They are the company that sell the most expansive software (considering the bundles). So even though everybody would be buying their out dated product (yes admit it, half of the pluggins in the bundles pre-dates 2001) do you think they will be reducing their prices ? Hell no ! They'll keep the same price and cash more on they already overprice products.

22-Nov-07 09:51 AM

Marc JX8P    Said...

So? Regardless of the price of the product, regardless of how wise or unwise their course of action in this may be and regardless of how explainable some of the used cracks may be, in the end it's very simple: if people don't buy the software they use then they're using it illegally. That's simply a legal fact. You might argue about the approach BanPiracy is taking, you might argue that Waves should lower their prices - but that doesn't change a thing.

22-Nov-07 10:17 AM

Ian Copeland    Said...

If I stole a tune from an artist who used and who felt justified using cracked software and sold the stolen tune to Revlon for a hair care product advertisement the wronged musician would wail and moan the injustice: that I had unfairly profited from their artistic labor. I would be sued and burned in effigy in Internet forums across the web. Would anyone rally to my defense? Hell, no. I would be just some dishonest hack being paid for another musician’s hard work and talent. How is it any different, then, if I steal from a company and their programmers? It takes money, time, and a considerable amount of talent to write DSP code. Software (and music) should not be free unless the developer (or musician) wants to make it available gratis. No amount of opposing argument will turn theft into anything other than what it is. If you use it, pay for it.

Bravo, BanPiracy!

22-Nov-07 05:53 PM

concerned engineer    Said...

Thank the lord that someone, anyone, is standing up for software developers whose intellectual property is getting ripped off. I don't agree with what BanPiracy is doing when it comes to some of their enforcement, but at least they're doing something. Where is the courage of the rest of the industry? Where does it say that a software developer has to just take it up the arse if the crackers want the product?

23-Nov-07 12:04 AM

boycott waves    Said...

Sounds like the RIAA.

24-Nov-07 01:44 AM

30 years in the industry    Said...

This "war on piracy" is stupid. (Like war on anything else.) I can tell you that a lot of studio owners use pirate copies of software. Yeah, we bought the legal copy whose copy protection sucks, so one takes its manual out from the box, puts the box on the shelf for public display ("here, I bought it!") and the pirate copy is actually used with the legal copy's manual for production work. Because the pirate copy just works better, folks.

Whoever these dumbass anti-piracy crusaders are, they have no clue how the studio industry actually works. So I guess, maybe Aran IS right, and they are retired Mossad agents looking for a job. :-)

05-Dec-07 01:00 PM

Pissedoffuser    Said...

I think Waves should do themselves a favor and reduce their Rediculous prices. The Mercury Bundle (Currently 4500 at Musicians Friend) should sell for 450. Basically they should go thru their product line and take the last digit off. So a bundle that sells for 670. should be 67 bucks. Thats all they are worth. And they wonder why Piracy is so prevalant? They are a bunch of money grubbing whore$. I dont make any money recording demos in my basement. So why should I have to pay 4500. for a bundle that is at most worth 450.00? Why?

22-Oct-08 02:20 PM

lush93    Said...

Waves makes great plug-ins. Why else would people pay the high prices? Why would people want pirated copies? Their stuff is great and every professional worth a dime uses them. Your inability to afford them hardly qualifies you as the arbiter of what Waves should charge.

03-Mar-09 11:06 AM

Born here...    Said...

Why all this packaging that looks "big" on the shelf in the shop? You tell me better now!

07-Jan-10 08:55 AM

your-conscience    Said...

lush93, you blatantly work for Waves! Admittedly they should paid for their work, but 4500 is BS and they're not even the best. BanPiracy was set up by Waves because Waves are greedy, you can see by their proices they are greedy.

You developers are fools, you create the pirate scene because you charge too much, you just cannot see this. You are a victim of yourself.

Most people want to support developers but most people only make average wages so they will support the devs who are not consumer whores like Waves.

There are many subsitute plugins just as good as Waves. People are finding it hard to make money from music these days and yet you have the cheek to ask 4500 for mainly old stuff.. This is your problem, the sooner you realise this and drop your prices the sooner you'll reduce the problem. Busting the odd studio here and there wont gain you much revenue. Many sales at a lower price will unltimately equal more profit long term. You need to sack your accountant and start thinking from most people's view.

Why don't you stop the main culprits, these forums that share files, these are part of the chain too but you don't stop them, why? Got no balls most likely because half of them are Russian and we all know you're shit scared of messing with Russia.

You are fools to yourselves Waves. Wake up!

06-May-10 07:38 PM

BanPiracy fan and non just..    Said...

u know the melody?? 'its in the AiiiiiiiR' ... :))) that sais it all :D ...prices to fuzking high ...10.000 Euros on the full bundle? ...are u nuts? ...i think stupids are those guys that buy your stuff hahahahhhh ...and remember ...anything that is so unaccesible to someone ...that someone will always try go get to that thing ... piracy will always exist ...why? all the comments and you will figure it out should grow up Waves!

07-May-10 09:17 PM    Said...


no more ferrari...

29-May-10 11:32 AM

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